Podcaster Jon Slavet joined Los Angeles anchor Elex Michaelson this week to talk about his recent interview with former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, a longtime political mentor to Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a clip taken from the interview, Brown is seen telling Slavet, “She may not want to run for governor of the state of California. That may not be where she should be going. I think it’s going to be difficult for her to win that job.”

Michaelson went on to press Slavet on his conversation with Brown regarding his onetime love interest: “So what did Willie Brown say to you about Kamala Harris? Because there was a lot there.”“Yeah, well, first of all, kudos to Willie—age 91, still going strong, still sharp. I mean, I think that’s amazing. You know, he, in effect, said he doesn’t think governor is a fit for her,” Slavet replied.“He talked about her strengths in the legal world, but not as an executive, which to me was pretty stunning because this is a guy who knows her very well. He’s a legend in Democratic politics, right? He’s been a mentor to Kamala. And he actually cares about the future of California authentically, and he in effect said she should try something different,” Slavet added.“And he also said to you that he told her that when Joe Biden offered her the vice presidency, that she should turn it down and try to be the attorney general instead,” Michaelson responded.